Community Events

Oct

2021

WLEN Interview with Cradle to Career Director Tim Kelly

Woman’s Voice: The Lenawee Substance Abuse Prevention Coalition is a diverse group of dedicated community members united around the goal of reducing substance use in Lenawee County. LSAPC members work collaboratively to engage and educate the community in order to promote a healthy Lenawee.

Kathy Williams: I’m Kathy Williams. And with me on tonight’s program is Tim Kelly and Tim and I are talking again about the Prevention and Education subcommittee, part of Lenawee Substance Abuse Prevention Coalition, and Tim, we want to continue our discussion we had on October 4th about the Drug Take-Back Day that is going to be held October 23rd at ProMedica Hickman Hospital. You know, in April we said we had collected a significant amount of things that should not be in our homes or offices or our vehicles anymore. Or our barns, garages… You know, I mean, wherever we happen to stash things there, and then we forget about them. It’s a good way to just do a little quick clean-up.

Tim Kelly: Yeah. Yeah. The people kind of put things in places like your nightstands or even in your car and you forget about them. And this is the opportunity to, to collect them all up, you know, and it’s, it’s not just pills. It’s pills, it’s inhalers, it’s maybe ointments or topical things that you had, or the needles that you may have used for some type of injections that you or a person you care about may have had to have at one time. All those things can be brought out there on the 23rd and, and disposed of.

Kathy Williams: Well, and you know, we’ve talked before about that you know, getting rid of these things, of course helps protect your other family members and, and things like that. But the teenage statistic really surprised me.

Tim Kelly: Yeah. Yeah. You know, recently we did something that’s called the MiPHY. It’s a survey of students at schools, 9^th and 11th graders. In that survey, 7% of the kids identified that they had taken prescription drugs that were not prescribed to them. And usually that’s through, you know, taking them out of somebody’s cupboard or, or getting them somehow through a family member’s prescription.

Kathy Williams: Right.

Tim Kelly: So yeah, the 7% is a lot.

Kathy Williams: That and I, yeah, that one really shocked me.

Tim Kelly: Yeah.

Kathy Williams: So, if that’s going on, you know, how many of the adults are also swapping out things that they shouldn’t be swapping out and it, and they may not even, you know, of course they’re not doing it intentionally to hurt anyone, but you don’t know what other people’s physical conditions are, how medications might mix incorrectly. And, you know, even over the counter drugs can be dangerous.

Tim Kelly: Right. The interactions between the drugs, obviously you want to ask your doctors, which ones work together and which don’t, but sometimes these expired drugs can be harmful to you as well if you try to mix them with something. So please dispose of them, contact a physician to find out the correct way to use them.

Kathy Williams: And it there are people listening that have questions on what kind of things they can bring, they can go to the DrugPreventionLenawee.com website, there’s lists there. I believe there’s even lists there of other places that they could take their disposable prescriptions and such on a regular basis. Of course, we want them to come October 23rd to our big Drug Take-Back event.

Tim Kelly: Yeah. Those, that day is a really good day for us to, you know, call attention to it and have it all brought in at one time and hopefully beat a record of our previous amounts that we’ve collected before. But really, throughout the year you should dispose of things when they become expired or they could become dangerous, but you can contact your law enforcement agencies in your community and they can direct you to a disposal site for any meds.

Kathy Williams: But we’re making this super simple.

Tim Kelly: Yeah.

Kathy Williams: Because all they have to do is drive through. They don’t even have to get out of their car.

Tim Kelly: Right.

Kathy Williams: They’re going to give them a goodie bag that’s going to have some cool things in it.

Tim Kelly: Yes.

Kathy Williams: They’ll have a chance to sign up for a little contest on WLEN’s website: just a short little survey to win some prizes and…

Tim Kelly: Yeah, that WLEN website that we encourage people to go there and do that quick survey just to let us know, you know, how things are, are going or what issues people have with the medication disposal. And I think last time a person won a $200 gift basket.

Kathy Williams: They did.

Tim Kelly: So there could be something really good out there for you.

Kathy Williams: Very wonderful prizes. You can also go on the WLEN website and there is a banner ad about the Drug Take-Back event that links you to appropriate information that you might need.

Tim Kelly: Yeah. And the other thing that is going to be available is some stuff through Facebook. Look for some maybe some live feeds from that Drug Prevention Lenawee site, and you can do things like Snapchat filters, things I’m not really good at but something…

Kathy Williams: Huge media presence.

Tim Kelly: Yes.

Kathy Williams: So yeah, we definitely want to encourage people: find out more about it, talk to your friends and neighbors, and it’s you know, it’s just a great community-type process.

Tim Kelly: Yeah. It really, you know, back in April when we did it, we had 500 pounds of drugs taken back that day. I think as a community we can beat that. We can, we can get more. It was a little rainy day that day. And, regardless, we can beat that. You don’t have to get out of the car.

Kathy Williams: Exactly.

Tim Kelly: That’s huge. Just drive through, hand it off. There’s people from the pharmacy school at Toledo that’s going to be right there to take stuff from you.

Kathy Williams: Well, and I think another important thing to make sure people realize is you can bring it in the original container. They are so good at making sure all your personal information is wiped out. They, you know, all of the pill dispensers and things like that. Anything that might have your name on it gets burned. I mean, it’s incinerated, it’s all overseen by the Sheriff’s department. So nothing walks away and I was amazed at how secure all of that part of the process went.

Tim Kelly: Yeah. There’s deputies onsite that are supervising things and they will give you Deterra bags. If you, if you don’t know what that is, it’s a bag that will… you can use when you’re at home to dissolve medicines and just dispose of them right in your regular trash. So those will be available there.

Kathy Williams: Yeah, we want to stop people from flushing things down the toilets, because that used to be the go-to. And so part of this is about protecting our environment.

Tim Kelly: Yes.

Kathy Williams: Whether it’s under the soil or people we’re looking at, so we want to protect them all.

Tim Kelly: Right.

Kathy Williams: Well, Tim, thanks so much for talking to us again. We hope that our listeners will participate in the Drug Take-Back event. Again, it is at ProMedica Hickman Hospital, October 23rd, from 10 until 2.

Tim Kelly: Thank you.

Kathy Williams: You’re welcome.

Woman’s Voice: Thank you for listening. This information has been provided by the Lenawee Substance Abuse Prevention Coalition. Supported by funding from the Health Resources and Services Administration. New messages air on the first and third Monday of each month at 6:15 p.m. You can listen to this program as a podcast under the audio tab on WLEN.com and listen and gather more information at DrugPreventionLenawee.com.

Oct

2021

WLEN Interview with Cradle to Career Director Tim Kelly

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Kathy Williams: I’m Kathy Williams and with me on tonight’s program is Tim Kelly. And Tim works at the LISD, but tonight he’s wearing his Lenawee Substance Abuse Prevention Coalition hat. He is the Prevention and Education subcommittee chair. Tim, we’re going to be talking about the October 23rd Drug Take-Back event.

Tim Kelly: Yeah. Hopefully everybody can come join us on that day out at ProMedica Hickman Hospital.

Kathy Williams: Yeah. We’re going to be there that Saturday from 8:30… Well, the remote’s from 8:30 to noon, but the drop-off is actually from 10 o’clock to two o’clock I believe.

Tim Kelly: Yes. 10 o’clock to 2 o’clock around back of the building. Just follow the signs.

Kathy Williams: Back where they do the COVID test.

Tim Kelly: Right.

Kathy Williams: Tim, you know, we want to kind of give people an idea of how to gear up for this. We had a great turnout in April, and have you started looking for where all your drugs are hidden in your house?

Tim Kelly: Yeah, and unfortunately I’ve had to look for them lately. I had a little bit of a cold and quite frankly, had to search in a number of places. You know, you go in your bathroom – that seems pretty natural.

Kathy Williams: Yep.

Tim Kelly: But you know, in the vanity… I think I found some pills in my linen closet that were definitely expired. But also kitchen cabinets or in your glove box of your car are all pretty common places people keep their, their meds.

Kathy Williams: Well, yeah. And, and as women who never survive with only one handbag, so…

Tim Kelly: Oh yeah.

Kathy Williams: I know last time I went through probably three different purses, I found, you know, just a lot of allergy medications in those that who knows how long they had been there. So it, you know, that’s, that’s one of the things that we’d like people to get going with now, because they’ve got plenty of time. Look through those cupboards, look through those drawers, and you know, help other people gather their drugs that have been outdated or, you know, aren’t being used anymore. Help them get those together.

Tim Kelly: Yeah. Go to grandma’s house.

Kathy Williams: Yes.

Tim Kelly: If you get an aunt or somebody can help them to go through those, because there are many that you just really don’t realize have expired.

Kathy Williams: Right.

Tim Kelly: And those can be pretty dangerous to mix with other meds or, or ineffective at the, at the best, you know, they, they just don’t work any longer. So, need to get those out of there.

Kathy Williams: Exactly. And you know, and it’s not just prescription things. It’s vitamins even. Last time for April, I couldn’t believe how many supplements I had bought, you know, years ago when you’re going to go on some crazy diet and then you didn’t do it after two weeks. And so all those supplements were still left. Those can be brought to the Drug Take-Back as well.

Tim Kelly: Yes they can, as well as the, the ointments or topical things that people put on rashes or things like that.

Kathy Williams: Right.

Tim Kelly: Inhalers: those things, you just don’t think are medicine per se, but they are.

Kathy Williams: They are.

Tim Kelly: So they, and they expire and you can bring them out there on that day and dispose of them.

Kathy Williams: You know, and we’re coming into “flu season”. How many people have old cough medicine that they should not be saving for this season? They should be refreshing those things.

Tim Kelly: Absolutely. Those things, and those can actually be harmful to keep around.

Kathy Williams: Right.

Tim Kelly: So yeah, definitely we’ll be able to take those back on Drug Take-Back Day. Sharps as well, any needles. We know that last April, we had a lot of those returned and, and those are, you know, something are kind of hard to get rid of typically, but on the 23rd, we’ll be able to take any of those back too.

Kathy Williams: Something else that we didn’t, I don’t know that we got a lot of, but veterinary medications. You know, pills that you’ve got for your, for your pet, that, you know, you ended up changing, you know, same thing with humans – you ended up changing the medication halfway through because one thing wasn’t working. So you got something else… So those are probably laying around somewhere too…

Tim Kelly: Yeah.

Kathy Williams: Like maybe in the garage or, you know, in a little cubby somewhere.

Tim Kelly: Yeah. Thanks for reminding me of that. I do, I do have some dog medicines that I need to get rid of that are right outside the garage. Yep, good.

Kathy Williams: Yeah. And you know, maybe if you have a vet that you deal with, you could, you know, remind your veterinarian that this we’d love taking those expired drugs from the vet clinics as well.

Tim Kelly: Yeah. Great. Yeah, we can do that.

Kathy Williams: So. It’s just a, it’s just a good way of course, to get rid of things you shouldn’t have, clean up those cupboards and you’ll find all kinds of great usable space.

Tim Kelly: Yeah.

Kathy Williams: And you know, help protect yourselves, your family, and the environment at the same time.

Tim Kelly: Yes, absolutely. We, we really look forward to people coming out on the 23rd and, and bringing any and everything they can find it. You know, you mentioned supplements and vitamins. Those things are, are things we just do leave, sit thinking “they’re always going to be good” and they do expire just like anything else.

Kathy Williams: They do. So again, the Drug Take-Back Day this October is on October 23rd. It’s at ProMedica Hickman Hospital. And we look forward to seeing a lot of people there. And a lot of interesting donations. All right, thanks Tim.

Tim Kelly: Thank you!

Aug

2021

WLEN Interview with LCMHA / Pathways Engagement Center Program Manager Kellie Niese

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Kathy Williams: This is Kathy Williams. And with me on tonight’s program is Kellie Niese. We’re going to be talking about an upcoming event called the Day of HOPE that’s happening the end of August. And Kellie is the HRSA Recovery Coordinator, and so she’s been in charge of this huge event. And Kellie, I know it started out small, but it’s getting bigger…

Kellie Niese: It did. This all generated from work that I’m doing to get Narcan out and the community educated and get Narcan in their hands, where I thought I was going to set up a little table and hand it out downtown. And then I’m just overwhelmed with how many community partners wanted to be a part of this event. So, it’s turned into the Day of HOPE which stands for…

Kathy Williams: Health Ownership, Prevention, & Education.

Kellie Niese: Yes.

Kathy Williams: And so, you’re going to have all kinds of different booths there, different local organizations that are all promoting owning your own health and helping with prevention and education as far as drug and alcohol abuse.

Kellie Niese: That’s right, it’s addressing substance use disorder as well as behavioral health issues. And it really is a collaborative in our community where we’re working to promote overall individual wellness and tools for people and resources for people to help them be well. So things like Narcan, obviously that’s what started it all…

Kathy Williams: Right.

Kellie Niese: The Mobile Recovery Unit, which is literally what it sounds like – a mobile clinic to help people with health care needs as well as addiction needs. And they are going to be there for a meet and greet so you can kind of take a tour of the bus and meet them. WLEN is going to be there at the event so it should be fun. And we’re hoping to get other community partners like massage therapy, yoga instruction, anything that you can think of that promotes overall Wellness.

Kathy Williams: I think that’s great that a lot of the local businesses are also wanting to come on board, aside from the nonprofits. I mean, the nonprofits, we tend to help each other, we try to make sure that there’s not duplication of services, and things like that, but I think it’s going to be exciting to see the different local businesses that are going to participate that are promoting healthy lifestyles: healthy eating, healthy products that they sell, you know, all those kind of things.

Kellie Niese: Right, right. Because overall health is complicated and it takes a lot of factors to maintain your health. So, we want to kind of put that all on display for folks that may not know all of these opportunities and places are around in our community.

Kathy Williams: Yep.

Kellie Niese: So, for example, Pathways will be there, peer recovery coaches will be there – you can meet them, learn what they’re all about. And then we’ll have things like food trucks for people to eat and enjoy everyone’s company. So, I’m really excited about this coming up because I think, I feel like substance use is something that’s kind of put in the corners of the community sometimes. So, we’re putting it out there, shining light on it, and showing that there’s hope and that there is a pathway to wellness.

Kathy Williams: I think they’re going to find mind, body, spirit.

Kellie Niese: Yes.

Kathy Williams: We’re going to encompass the whole person in all the different levels of addiction that you might be in, and even for people that aren’t in an addiction position, but just need that little of bit extra compassion for whatever their journey is.

Kellie Niese: Right. The goal is to connect all the dots for people, right? And so even there, you know, CMH will be there with the e-Race: you can sign up for the e-Race the Stigma, which I think this event really does address stigma.

Kathy Williams: Right.

Kellie Niese: And again, lets people know that there’s hope out there which is the message we really want to put in our title and like extend to everyone that visits us.

Kathy Williams: That’s why it’s called a Day of HOPE.

Kellie Niese: That’s right!

Kathy Williams: So, the event itself then is happening August 31st, and Kellie, it will be going on from what, 2 p.m. to 6 p.m. it looks like?

Kellie Niese: Right. 2 to 6.

Kathy Williams: How will they be able to find out additional information?

Kellie Niese: I just want to add that August 31st is National Overdose Awareness Day. So that’s really the, what started this whole event, is we wanted to acknowledge that. For people that are interested in coming to the event, you can contact customer service at CMH at 263-8905.

Kathy Williams: And you said that about the Overdose Day and that’s why the Narcan was so important…

Kellie Niese: Right.

Kathy Williams: That started the whole thing.

Kellie Niese: That started the whole thing.

Kathy Williams: Because that is an essential part sometimes for stopping deaths.

Kellie Niese: It’s absolutely life-saving. Life-saving. It can have an immediate impact and save someone’s life and give them hope of rehab and recovery.

Kathy Williams: Also, they can find updates at DrugPreventionLenawee.com on the LSAPC site. So, Kellie, appreciate your time, appreciate all the work you’re putting into the Day of Hope. And again, it’s August 31^st.

Kellie Niese: 2 to 6.

Kathy Williams: Thanks again.

Kellie Niese: Thank you.

Jul

2021

WLEN Interview with LCMHA / Pathways Engagement Center Program Manager Kellie Niese

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Woman’s Voice: The Lenawee Substance Abuse Prevention Coalition is a diverse group of dedicated community members united around the goal of reducing substance use in Lenawee County. LSAPC members work collaboratively to engage and educate the community in order to promote a healthy Lenawee.

Kathy Williams: I’m Kathy Williams. And with me on tonight’s program is Kellie Niese. And Kellie is the program manager for Pathways Engagement Center and she’s also the recovery coordinator with the HRSA grant. Kellie, one of the things we want to talk about tonight, though is about Naloxone. Can you tell us what is Naloxone? How does it work? And why would we need it?

Kellie Niese: Okay, well those are all good questions. So, Naloxone is the long name for Narcan basically. And so some folks might be more familiar with Narcan in the sense that it is used by First Responders and every day folks to reverse an opiate overdose.

Kathy Williams: Okay.

Kellie Niese: Narcan you can get by prescription from your provider, but all these grants now in our community are funding free community education and distribution of Narcan. And Pathways Engagement Center peers are trained to do that education, and we also are providing people with free Narcan kits. So why would you need Narcan? Some people have an image in their head that it’s just for heroin use or people that overdose on illicit drugs. But actually, anyone that has prescribed opiates should probably have Narcan in their home. Even if you’ve taken a steady dose for years, sometimes your health condition can change and a normal dose can all of a sudden be metabolized differently.

Kathy Williams: Okay.

Kellie Niese: And you can have an oversensitive reaction. So having someone trained in how to use Narcan and having Narcan on hand can literally save a loved one’s life. Also, if you have it in your home and you have kids or anyone coming to visit, one of the number one ways people use drugs and kids use drugs is they find them in medicine cabinets. And so, if you have opiates in your home, or you have teenagers in your home, having Narcan on hand can save a life. And so what a great opportunity we have that we have this in our community that you can come by Pathways and get some free education and get a free kit. And we’ll also be doing Narcan education and distribution in the community. Our first event is August 31st in downtown Adrian at the Farmers Market.

Kathy Williams: Okay. So does Narcan have a shelf life, kind of like an EpiPen would or..?

Kellie Niese: It does. There’s an expiration date on the bottle, but essentially it’s good for 2-3 years.

Kathy Williams: Oh, okay.

Kellie Niese: And it comes in a nice kind of cooler kit that keeps it at room temperature because it can’t be exposed to really cold or hot temperatures. And the kit also comes with like a first aid mask, some instructions – just in case you forget how to use Narcan. But the cool thing about Narcan is it’s pretty benign. What I mean by that is if you administer it to someone that may not have an opiate overdose, and might’ve just collapsed, it’s not going to hurt them.

Kathy Williams: Okay.

Kellie Niese: It’s not going to hurt a child if they take it. And we have the kind that goes in just through a nose pump, just one quick nose pump through your nose.

Kathy Williams: Okay.

Kellie Niese: And literally can reverse an overdose within minutes.

Kathy Williams: So, you said again this is available at the Pathways Center. People can stop in anytime? Do they need to make an appointment or anything?

Kellie Niese: Nope, Pathways is open every day, Monday through Friday, 8 p.m. to 8 a.m….

Kathy Williams: Okay.

Kellie Niese: And 24 hours over the weekend. We also have a phone number 920-4416 that you can reach a Peer Recovery Coach at after 8 p.m..

Kathy Williams: Okay.

Kellie Niese: And they can talk to you about coming in and getting that, or answering any questions about substance use that you may have, or just be someone to talk to. But you can literally just drop in. You don’t need insurance, you don’t need any money, you just need an interest to learn and maybe a desire to save someone’s life one day.

Kathy Williams: That’s a wonderful desire to have.

Kellie Niese: Right.

Kathy Williams: We also want to talk a little bit about a training program you have coming up.

Kellie Niese: Right and so the HRSA grant is looking to expand Peer Recovery Coaches in our County. So, a lot of programs depend on Peer Recovery Coaches in substance use disorder treatment. Peer Coaches, what they do is talk to someone with addiction and help them get connected to treatment. And they’re so important, not only in therapy, but in clinics that have doctors that are doing medication-assisted treatment, in jails for example. They’re needed for a lot of volunteer programs in our community. So we’re providing this education for free. You can express interest in that by reaching out to me at kniese@lcmha.org and we can connect you with an application. And the training is normally around $1,500 a person.

Kathy Williams: Wow.

Kellie Niese: It’s a five-day training that comes with books and resources. All that’s provided for free, and then after you’re done we can connect you to the recovery community and kind of continue to mentor and develop that skill if you’re looking for a role, or a job, or profession in recovery coaching.

Kathy Williams: So, Kellie, it’s kniese@lcmha.org?

Kellie Niese: That’s correct.

Kathy Williams: Okay, I want to make sure we know how to spell “Niese”. So when is that training?

Kellie Niese: It’s the first week of August.

Kathy Williams: Okay.

Kellie Niese: It starts August 2^nd and that goes through to August 6^th.

Kathy Williams: So anyone who is interested in the training, I mean, check out what’s involved in it and then decide whether you want to go through with it or not. But lots of information available.

Kellie Niese: Right, anyone that’s been addicted to substances and is in recovery now and has a desire to give back and expand into a profession where they’re helping people on the other side. Which is a really awesome experience. And I’m really excited to offer it to our community

Kathy Williams: Well, we appreciate your time Kellie. And we hope that, you know, the community, I’m sure is gathering a lot of information about drugs and drug abuse and how to prevent overdoses and such. You’re a big part of it, so we appreciate you, Kellie. Thank you.

Kellie Niese: Thank you.

Woman’s Voice: Thank you for listening. This information has been provided by the Lenawee Substance Abuse Prevention Coalition. New messages air on the first and third Monday of each month at 6:15 p.m. You can listen to this program as a podcast under the audio tab on WLEN.com and listen and gather more information at DrugPreventionLenawee.com.

Jul

2021

WLEN Interview with Parkside Family Counseling LLC Director and Owner Therese Langan

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Kathy Williams: This is Kathy William and with me on tonight’s program is Therese Langan and she is the owner and the director at Parkside Family Counseling and Therese’s also a therapist there.

Therese Langan: Yes.

Kathy Williams: So Therese, we appreciate you spending some time with us this evening.

Therese Langan: Oh, I’m glad to be here.

Kathy Williams: Tell us a little bit about Parkside and I know the program we’re going to be talking about has to do with teen substance use. But Parkside’s been around for quite a while?

Therese Langan: Parkside’s been around since 1997 and the population that we love to serve are teenagers and their families. And so working with teenagers has really evolved and made sense to evolve into working with kids and trying to prevent substance abuse.

Kathy Williams: Exactly. And so the program is of course by the Lenawee Substance Abuse Prevention Coalition. And you have a wonderful program coming up soon as a community education piece that Parkside is providing. It’s going to happen at the Adrian District Library. Tell us about that. What’s going on?

Therese Langan: Yes, we’re going to have, it’s a two-part series. So different information both days, on Wednesday evening July 14th, and 21st from 6 to 8 p.m. We’ll be presenting a teen substance use prevention education program and it is going to be for parents who are interested, other involved community members, or really just anybody that is interested in learning more about why it’s so important to steer teens away from substance use.

Kathy Williams: Well, and I think in today’s society, you know, there’s always been that the social aspect of peer pressure, you know, we tend to refer to that a lot. But talking to teens about use is different than talking to adults about drug and alcohol usage.

Therese Langan: It is, and one of the things that adults are really surprised to find out is that the research shows that teens use more than ever because of stress in their life.

Kathy Williams: Yeah, you know and to me it doesn’t surprise me, because I know that especially with the way the last year-and-a-half has been with all of us…

Therese Langan: Sure.

Kathy Williams: That those are crutches that a lot of us had depended on, in the past, and it seems to revert back to them. Teens may not have been exposed to the kind of stressors they have until recently.

Therese Langan: That’s true. It’s really become just more prevalent.

Kathy Williams: So, within the program then, it’s basically like you said, open to anyone. It’s a free program so there’s no fees involved.

Therese Langan: Yes.

Kathy Williams: And it’s going to teach them what?

Therese Langan: Well, the first night on the 14th, we’re going to be presenting more about what to know about substance use and teens, information about brain development and how that can be stagnated if use begins young and is consistent, trends in substance use, and just what makes it more likely to be habit-forming for teens. Then the second evening, we’re going to be talking more about what to do about it: ways to talk to teens that can be the most impactful when it comes to substance use, and positive strategies that keeps teens busy and focused on their future success.

Kathy Williams: What different ways can people find out about getting registered? I’m sure you need some kind of registration.

Therese Langan: Right, so we have a flyer that’s out and about. But the flyer is on our Facebook page. So, our Facebook page is Parkside Family Counseling and if you look for that and like our page, you can see what’s on there, and we have sent it out to various community organizations throughout the county as well.

Kathy Williams: And also is there a phone they can call as well?

Therese Langan: They can call Parkside Family Counseling to get more information and to register because we do want to know how many are coming. And our phone number that you call is 517-266-8880 and you’ll be given the information there.

Kathy Williams: There you go. And again, it is a teen substance use prevention education – almost like a seminar, little mini seminar…

Therese Langan: Yes.

Kathy Williams: Wednesday evening July 14^th as well as Wednesday evening July 21st from 6 to 8 p.m. Well, Therese, I want to thank you again for stopping by and helping us with getting this information out to the general public We hope you have a lot of people show up for this.

Therese Langan: Thank you very much.